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age_of_cage | 37 points | Sep 02 2017 08:11:32

[META] Did x265 become the standard overnight or something? | Megalinks MegaDB [META] Did x265 become the standard overnight or something?

Some of us fucks are stuck with devices incapable of playing this codec. Just a bit weird how usually there were one or two links that utilized it and now it pretty much dominates the front page.

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[-] 5-bags | 47 points | Sep 02 2017 08:28:24

I think it's just that people who prefer 265 encode are active in this community at the moment. And quite a lot of good uploaders (bigger, quality sized packs) prefer 265 here in megalinks.

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[-] Jake548675 | 30 points | Sep 02 2017 09:14:29

x265 is great, the only downside is that no older devices can play it. Right now I only have a PC & notebook with HEVC hardware decoder; my tablet/smartphone/smart TV etc. can't. But it's always like this when a better codec is introduced, it was the same for x264 at first. I think there is a chance x265 is going to be standard for a long time, because it allows for small file sizes and is good enough for 4K content. If I really need to play a video on a device that can't play x265 (e.g. my tablet when I travel), I use handbrake to re-encode it. I suggest you do the same.

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[-] balla786 | 6 points | Sep 02 2017 10:50:35

I've noticed some devices when streaming from my Plex server have a hard time.decoding x265. Might also depend on how it's been encoded too. Also it absolutely beats the shit out of my Plex server CPU when transcoding to devices.

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[-] EvolutionVII | 4 points | Sep 02 2017 13:29:04

Even with quicksync the cpu load for tranacoding is crazy.

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[-] Adam302 | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 20:12:25

depends on the CPU/generation. Kabylake or better will do a much better job than previous generations.

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[-] gaythor | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 14:21:48

I always have it on Direct Play "force" for HEVC using Plex.

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[-] tennistargaryen | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:15:08

How can I enable that?

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:31:16

When you go to watch a video on the left side below the play button should have a settings icon.

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:34:27

It also depends on what device.

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[-] xanderbitme | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 22:57:24

I can't reach my Plex server when I'm at work, and my laptop at work can't play x265, so I use Plex to transcode the videos ("optimize for mobile") and take them to work on a flash drive.

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[-] dmjohn0x | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 19:45:04

I find that my cheap android box can do hevc 1080p 8bit or lower at no problem, but it sometimes struggles with 10bit encodes. And yeah, Transcoding x265 takes twice as much power at x264.

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[-] EvolutionVII | 5 points | Sep 02 2017 09:24:37

just get a sub 30 USD android box and you'll be fine.

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[-] Jake548675 | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 11:05:29

I didn't know there were 265x hardware decoders that cheap. Do you have any suggestions? I'd love to have one to plug into my TV.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 3 points | Sep 02 2017 13:12:48

Spend slightly more and get the ODroid C2 ($46), and you can use openELEC (free os: http://openelec.tv/) and external HDD to store stuff

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G145457216438

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[-] HA5HBANG | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 15:50:52

Is there something like the C2 but with USB 3.0 or SATA inputs? or does everyone just use the USB 2.0 w/ external hard drives? I don't have a NAS at the moment...

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[-] [deleted] | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 15:59:56

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[-] HA5HBANG | 2 points | Sep 03 2017 00:52:11

Thanks for your thoughts, I'll likely get a C2.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:14:33

Not sure, I think most low price system-on-a-chip manufacturers will be going with 2.0 since these devices don't need to transfer large amounts of data, if you can afford between $200-$300 I would build a HTPC and throw in a big NAS HDD so you can use the same box as a player and server, otherwise I think the C2 and an external drive is your best choice

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[-] HA5HBANG | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 00:51:48

OK, thanks. My current TV box is a Beelink SEA I running on the Realtek 1295 chip and it's ok, but I hate the Android on it. I'll look into the C2, it's pretty cheap to test.

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[-] AnterD | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 13:35:05

Is this like a raspberry pi with android on it? Can Kodi be installed on it? When looking at the specs, am I right that this Odroid can compete with the MINIX U9-h?

OMG please reply, I'm about to save 100 bucks :D

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 13:41:07

Yes to all those questions, it's like a beefier raspberry pi and the openELEC os is a stripped down Linux distro with just enough left in to run KODI. After you install openElec whenever you turn on the device it will boot straight to KODI in a matter of seconds, no extra installs or config needed.

I run openELEC on my HTPC (which if you were going to spend $200 I would go that route for stability's sake) and I love it

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[-] AnterD | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 13:45:41

Hell Yeah. Obviously I didn't know about this about 5 minutes ago. Would you mind supplying me with some websites on how to - install openelec on the odroid c2 and ~~- how to install kodi in openelec~~ (seems like kodi is preinstalled in openelec :D

how can the odroid be controlled? remote, keyboard or mouse? could I use a logitech keyboard with unifying adapter?

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 13:57:34

I haven't used it myself but I would think all those, plus there are a number of smart-device apps that act as KODI remotes and communicate over your local network (if you use android devices get Yatse).

KODI has instructions on their site of how to install openELEC on their site, note that LibreELEC is simply the name the rest of the world uses for openELEC (it's the same software). It's pretty easy and quick, you're just going to write the installer to a flash drive and then install off that drive.

http://kodi.wiki/view/ODROID

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[-] Jake548675 | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:39:10

Thank you for the suggestion, tiiiiimmmm. I had been looking for a good kodi device a few months ago and saw Odroid mentioned as one of the best options. I think I'll get a C2

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[-] AnterD | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:39:25

Hey just wondering... would a core 2 duo pc like a mac mini (from 2010) be able to play x265 1080p content? I could get one for real cheap... 4k wouldn't be possible I guess, am I right?

I'll probably still go with the Odroid, but wanted to know anyway.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 17:26:58

No, new hardware has special blocks made for decoding x265 that an old mac mini will not.

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[-] AnterD | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 18:14:01

Ok. Thanks. Odroid it is then :)

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[-] matthewjc | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 17:25:35

Can that thing handle x265 at 4k?

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 17:30:54

From their specs page (same page linked above):

  • H.265 4K/60FPS and H.264 4K/30FPS capable VPU

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[-] matthewjc | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 21:38:02

sorry...thanks

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[-] kgwjeglkwjlgkjw | 5 points | Sep 02 2017 21:46:17

It seems like people get too aggressive with their small file size encodes though. x265 compression is good, but not bringing a 1080p movie down to 2 gbs and meeting the same quality of a x264 version at 10 gbs. I want to like these 265 encodes, but they usually seem to have more artifacting and blocky backgrounds. I really want to embrace x265, but many of the encodes I've encountered seem sub par.

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[-] bluepandaice | 3 points | Sep 02 2017 17:49:43

My nieces shitty tablet can run x265 with mx player. How old is your tablet?

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 18:13:01

See, that's the real question, how old is it? If it's new hardware made in the last year or two it probably has native hardware decoding blocks for x265, if it's old hardware it needs a strong CPU to compensate.

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[-] Axelstrife | 16 points | Sep 02 2017 08:27:53

idk about others but i upload mostly only stuff i personally download to keep on my HDD"s tigole and UTR do awesome x265 movies and tv shows.

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[-] tiederian | 13 points | Sep 02 2017 09:06:00

Interestingly I don't think I own a device that can't play x265.

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[-] coheedcollapse | 5 points | Sep 02 2017 16:20:49

Yeah, I've got a media computer made with nearly decade-old parts and it can handle x265 - even transcoding it for Plex. Although I guess I'm not playing on anything obscure like an old PSP or something, so I haven't run into anything that can't handle it.

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[-] [deleted] | -2 points | Sep 02 2017 14:26:15

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[-] tiederian | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 14:31:04

Yes, with a 980ti graphics card. Plays x265 no problem.

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[-] thenicob | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 19:33:48

which graphic card doesn't lol

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[-] akkbar | 8 points | Sep 02 2017 11:54:29

X265 creates files small enough to fall under the 5gb bandwidth limit, so there is that. X265 is better at lower bitrate at 1080 and 4k while x264 is better at higher bitrates at 720 and 1080. X265 is great also for clean animation (anime, american comedy) as well. Some people have complained about some blurring in x265 encodes. Plus there is the lack of support on many smart TVs and set top boxes. I could be wrong on some finer details I'm sure.

Tl dr: x265 hasn't surpassed x264 yet by any stretch, but it has its place atm.

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[-] howea | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 21:29:12

H.265 works well on my 2015 Sony smart TV.

But you just want to get a cheap Android media player. They have supported H.264 for a couple years now

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[-] akkbar | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 17:06:53

I have a 2012 or 2013 Samsung TV, so it does not have native HEVC (X265) support. You have one of the Samsung TV's that runs on Tizen build of Android probably. I don't :(

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[-] howea | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 20:54:06

I got a Sony TV :-)

Tizen is a different OS to Android (they are both built from Linux but very separate)

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[-] MTFlava | 7 points | Sep 02 2017 11:40:06

Plex is the way to go with x265 on tv, I use a Chromecast and the Plex app. (iOS and/or android) If you want to see x265 on your smart device, the vlc app is great. You can either play the files directly from your device, or stream via plex servers through vlc. (local network option in vlc settings) The nice thing about the latter is that it bypasses the plex one-time activation fee to watch streamed content on a device.

TL;DR: plex/vlc combo for easy x265 access.

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[-] akkbar | 3 points | Sep 02 2017 12:02:23

You talking about using plex dlna with VLC? I use BubbleuPnP to serve as my dlna/uPnP bridge and VLC as my player on my phone to avoid the issues with audio sync with the plex web player. Also avoids any need for transcoding with any files as vlc can handle almost any codec. For my smart TV (Samsung smart hub plex app), I prefer x264 so that I can direct play 99% of the time.

I assume your doing something similar since vlc doesn't have native uPnP support on at least Android (and I assume iOS)?

EDIT: just reread your post... your not using vlc on your TV are you? With vlc, I assume you meant mobile.

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[-] MTFlava | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 17:36:27

Yes! Plex dlna with VLC, specifically running off an old Dell laptop that still has Windows 7. Sorry I wasn't clearer. I also only use VLC with mobile; I use Plex through Chromecast, PS3 and PS4, as my TVs aren't very smart.

I downloaded an x265 file earlier, directly to my Android device and had no trouble playing it with VLC. Is that what you meant by uPnP not having native support? Because if so, I had no issues.

I'll check out BubbleuPnP and see if it's a better fit for me, but so far I'm happy with what Plex and VLC provide. Hopefully anyone reading this who doesn't think their hardware can run x265 files now has some knowledge of software options they can try.

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[-] akkbar | 2 points | Sep 04 2017 17:04:07

BubbleuPnP will allow you to access a DLNA server on your LAN (assuming your running one, such as plex). It can then serve the video to an external player such as vlc. Never use bubbleuPnP's built in player. It sucks, simply using androids native codec set. Vlc for android does not have native support for accessing a DLNA server (which is what I am talking about uPnP for).

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[-] akkbar | 1 points | Sep 07 2017 04:27:38

Hey!! I just realized I am totally wrong and VLC for android (at least the beta release) does have native support for uPnP. I was confused and was connected to my 5ghz WiFi instead of my 2.4ghz. Derp!!

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[-] MTFlava | 1 points | Sep 07 2017 12:48:29

No problem! I've been able to access my hevc files on my iPad air 2 with vlc via the plex dlna servers as well, it works great!

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[-] alphaprime | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 14:07:23

or stream via plex servers through vlc

Is there any advantage of streaming from a plex server vs just having VLC play the file over the network via windows folder share?

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[-] MTFlava | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 17:37:23

I'm not sure if there's any advantage per se, I just like how Plex organizes everything, provides background info, etc. It's a nice touch.

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[-] skizmo | 1 points | Sep 08 2017 12:58:52

the plex one-time activation fee to watch streamed content on a device.

The what ? Have been using plex for a long time, but I never heard of this.

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[-] MTFlava | 1 points | Sep 08 2017 16:25:10

If you use the plex app directly on a mobile device (in my case the plex dlna server from my laptop to my iPad), there's a fee of $5USD to watch on the device's screen. (Although you can use the plex app as a remote control for Chromecast and other smart devices connected to tvs for free) If that's changed for the cheaper, great, but before I was more aware of other options like vlc, I paid the five bucks on Apple. I learned about vlc, and avoided making the same mistake again with my Samsung phone.

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[-] imadethistojackoff | 6 points | Sep 02 2017 16:30:33

I welcome it. It used to be harder to get x265 content on here and now its not :). As somone who's trying to get his library over to x265 its great. I got several things that all the torrents I found were dead.

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[-] gaythor | 5 points | Sep 02 2017 14:19:50

Things that play HEVC : VLC, Kodi, Roku, XBOX, Apple TV

Those are just the ones i know of personally.

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[-] zbxr81 | 4 points | Sep 03 2017 11:34:24

~~MarijuanaPlayer~~ PotPlayer also plays HEVC pretty well. I like it better than VLC.

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[-] HA5HBANG | 2 points | Sep 03 2017 21:33:45

+1. I've switched to PotPlayer from VLC on Win 10. No looking back.

It's touch-friendly too, which is a huge plus.

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[-] EddieEbola | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 15:03:13

Apple TV does? I have issues playing 1080p H265 files on my Apple TV. Might be the app I'm using.

I don't think Apple officially support it yet, but I'm sure it'll arrive soon enough so I still download some H265 just to have, but given the choice I got for H264.

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[-] gaythor | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 16:01:52

My ATV4 supports direct play in Plex. Direct play with Beamer, And also you can use the VLC app available in the app store. I am on tvOS 11 beta. But it worked in tvOS 10 too

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[-] EddieEbola | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:04:04

Interesting. Yeah, Beamer is fine but our household uses Infuse and that's pretty ropey.

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:07:24

I've never used Infuse. it costs money, VLC and Plex are free and do it better.

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[-] EddieEbola | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 19:53:05

I've been through SO many players. Plex I loved but Infuse works better with my current setup (NAS as a server). VLC I liked but not user friendly enough for the kids.

Basically, If I change our media set up again I think my wife will leave me. So it's 264 for us for the foreseeable.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 16:24:12

Apple will only support H.265/x265 in their newest iterations and forward, if you have an older Apple TV i doubt it will ever get support because it would need the hardware decoder block, not a software upgrade.

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[-] Relik | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 23:12:04

Fire TV (2nd gen) : HEVC : Hardware accelerated up to 3840x2160p (4K) @ 30fps, 25 Mbps, Main 10 Profile Level 5.0, Color space 8-bit and 10-bit input but just 8-bit output

Fire TV Stick (2nd gen) : HEVC : Hardware accelerated up to 1080p @ 30fps, 25 Mbps, Main Profile Level 4.0, Color space 8-bit support

Source : https://developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/devices/fire-tv/docs/device-and-platform-specifications

Side note, could somebody fix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Fire_TV ? It incorrectly states the Fire TV stick (2nd gen) only does H264 in hardware.

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 13:43:09

I don't know about amazon's FireOS, I only had it for a month and quickly sold it. Hated it, especially when you are used to the snappiness of an AppleTV.

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[-] clrksml | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 13:04:42

Only Roku 4 plays HEVC.

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 13:39:29

I've done it on a Roku Stick.

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[-] EposVox | 4 points | Sep 02 2017 14:44:11

Other than my like Windows 98 machine, I've never had trouble playing X265 or at least sending it through Plex. But then again, I don't watch anything on phone/tablet. But Xbox 360 and PS3 handle it.

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[-] Jake548675 | 2 points | Sep 03 2017 09:40:17

That's nonsense. Neither 360 nor PS3 can decode x265, especially not 1080p.

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[-] EposVox | 2 points | Sep 03 2017 14:31:32

Just watched the entire Game of Thrones Season 7 that way the past few weeks. Plex may still be transcoding some - I have quality at "Maximum" and it reads 1080p/5.1 - but that doesn't mean it's original quality. Just doesn't give me much info on that.
But the 360 had no problem playing it that way. Doesn't entirely matter if it's actually reading a H265 encoding or not - my source file is H265 and that's all I was getting at.

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[-] Jake548675 | 2 points | Sep 03 2017 15:14:09

You are using your PC's processing power to transcode it. Like I said, neither PS3 nor 360 can play x265. Any device can play anything if you transcode it.

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[-] EposVox | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 15:21:53

Well that's fine since the Plex app then doesn't give you a direct play option on those consoles. That was my whole point - by at least dropping it into Plex, I can play it on anything.

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[-] Frodo_Bomb | 3 points | Sep 02 2017 14:37:35

Well h265 is the successor to h264, and it is intended to become the standard. HEVC does happen to be more efficient than AVC, hence its name "High-Efficiency Video Codec," and reportedly h265 can almost double the level of compression compared to h264 while retaining the same level of video quality, so it would be ideal if it did become the standard. HOWEVER, it seem's that many encoders are taking these slight gains in compression as an excuse to crush down their content with no regard for quality retention, all for the sake of small file sizes.

Yify was doing this with h264, and h265 encoders such as Tigole are no better. If anyone is truly trying to save space while still having a degree of quality in their content, the first thing they should look for are 720p versions. Resizing the resolution from 1080p to 720p alone will cut filesize by more than half, all before any actual compression is applied. A 720p movie at 7GB would look roughly as compressed as the same 1080p movie at 15GB. The 1080p movie at 7GB would look twice as compressed.

Any encoder with 1080p movie file size in the single-digits are taking advantage of audiences who don't know any better and who think 1080p = quality. 1080p is just a buzzword, and it only means resolution, which has the biggest impact on bitrate but the lowest impact on quality. For this same reason, I personally don't care for 4K movies, not until we have the technology to truly support it.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 6 points | Sep 02 2017 15:07:46

Tigole, as well as the rest of UTR, put out a lot of HQ x265 stuff. Most people underestimate how far HEVC can compress stuff without losing quality, the theoretical limit is just below 4x compression (depending on the complexity of the images). I have posted this pic and article in a few places but I think this will help people understand what these codecs actually are...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/h-265-hevc-encoding-explained/

https://icdn7.digitaltrends.com/image/hevcslide1-640x640.png

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[-] Frodo_Bomb | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 21:29:08

compressing an untouched BluRay 4x would put it at just under 9mbps, but most are compressed far beyond that. A 3mbps movie would mean that it was compressed by at least 10x. There will be a loss of quality in encodes compressed that much, no matter how much of an improvement HEVC is over AVC

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 21:43:18

Not 4x compression of a Blu-ray, 4x compression over the equivalent quality x264 file. x265 handles larger macro-blocks meaning everything between key frames can be described with up to 4x less information than it could with x264, hence the much lower bit-rate. You cannot directly compare x264 and x265 bit-rates.

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[-] clrksml | 3 points | Sep 03 2017 12:58:55

I just convert it using ffmpeg copy command. I also strip all the meta data.

I watch everything on Roku 2 and One Plus One. So it's a must do. Plus I got 6tb of storage so size doesn't matter.

Here's the batch script I wrote. You just need to download ffmpeg and place it in the same folder. Then create a folder called 'nometa'. https://pastebin.com/JRNZYMNt

I strip metadata because some older uploads have been re-uploads from torrent sites and plex loves to use metadata for title.

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[-] randyputin | 3 points | Sep 03 2017 18:21:40

Forget X265, I can manage that, its everything being 10-bit that is driving me mad. I can't do 10-bit but can manage x265 fine. Its odd that the 2 are a package deal for most encodes.

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[-] BelchingBob | 1 points | Sep 05 2017 14:02:05

Exactly this. Yes, I understand HEVC reduces sizes extensively, but there is no need to go overboard.

We don't all operate server boxes with 10 WDREDs in our apartments.

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 13:19:39

x265/H.265 is future, x264/H.264 are being phased out worldwide. You can get sub $50 devices that will play x265 and you can save ~40%-60% of the space over an equivalent x264 encode. I upload in x265 because otherwise it would take forever to send up content. I store stuff in x265 because I store massive ammounts of data so even with lots of HDD and space I run out of room.

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[-] bpfn | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 18:40:22

I don't know about overnight, it started about 1x ago

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[-] ecchh | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 22:46:02

x265 has been steadily increasing in popularity for a long time. I've been collecting x265 videos for years now.

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[-] darksaviorx | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 09:34:01

I use plex to stream and it auto transcodes if the device doesn't support a format.

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[-] cyberdoggy | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 10:56:59

Any 4k TV should play x265 fine and it's much better than x264 if it's encoded right!

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[-] gaythor | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 14:15:09

That's when I switched. I never thought it looked good enough on my older TV, when I got a 4k tv and tried some hevc 4k content I was stunned.

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[-] CarolinaHome | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 14:49:11

You need a reality check - my 4k Roku/Insignia sure doesn't handle x265 and the transcoding beats the hell out of my Plex server. But I still like x265 since I hope that one day all of my equipment will support it.

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[-] gaythor | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 16:06:17

You must have messed up plex settings. Try HEVC on force.

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[-] CarolinaHome | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 00:19:28

Don't think I've ever changed anything - What does "Try HEVC on force" mean? I don't see anything like that in the server settings.

It should also be noted that I always have subtitles on if they are available.

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[-] [deleted] | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 17:52:37

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[-] dmjohn0x | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 19:41:31

I got a cheap chinese android box S905X for around $35 USD and it plays HEVC flawlessly. Totally worth it considering im getting many of my BDRips that were closing in at 50gb down to about 22gb with no noticable quality drop at 1080p.

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[-] ThatsSpooky | 0 points | Sep 02 2017 16:28:32

Every x265 file I've downloaded so far look so much worse than my x264 files, idk if I'm just downloading shitty encodes or what

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[-] howea | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 21:31:25

this is the problem with a lot of the encodes. They are done badly by small groups/individuals.

Tigole is supposed to bring out good releases.

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[-] buck-yar | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 09:41:51

I'm seeing the same thing. I had Saw 1-7 on x264 and x265 and the 265 was almost unwatchable. Could see the compression blocks, the noise from the film was almost smoothed out (that one can see on a high bitrate x264). This was ~4gb per movie also, not too highly compressed. It could be a bad rip, but it seems to be the norm rather than the exception. Hope I'm wrong.

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[-] howea | 1 points | Sep 04 2017 11:19:09

The reason for the release groups not adopting is is the standard and standardising releases was up in the air. So now we should be seeing some consistency.

I am regularly downloading rmteam TV show releases and hardly ever see issues, as the encodes are pretty much using same presets (even though most are re-encodes)

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[-] AReallyScaryGhost | -2 points | Sep 02 2017 10:29:42

It's not the standard. It's just smaller files with an okay video quality. For some reason people here can't afford hard drive space even though its dirt cheap. I just download better quality stuff off of torrents and encode it to x264 if I need to.

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[-] rima999 | 0 points | Sep 02 2017 10:55:15

...or maybe they want to download the content in half the time?

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[-] AReallyScaryGhost | -1 points | Sep 02 2017 10:56:33

Sure. I just care about quality.

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[-] Jake548675 | 4 points | Sep 02 2017 11:15:20

If using the right bitrate, x265 isn't any worse than x264. It's just that some people use insufficient bitrates. Naturally a 2GB x265 BDrip has lower quality than a 8GB x264 file. But a 5GB x265 video is about the same as a 8GB x264 encode (probably better), if both use the same source. One problem is that some people just re-encode x264 files; of course those x265 videos are bound to look worse than the source file.

Given the choice between a direct x264 BDrip and an x265 recode, I'd of course take the direct rip, too. Quality over quantity.

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[-] Hondalol1 | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 12:18:31

I completely agree, but thats the real issue, i love 2gb Game of throne x265 encodes, but you're much more likely to find crappy sub 600mb files, and its just not worth losing so much quality to download in half the time.

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[-] uwotm8_888 | 1 points | Sep 03 2017 01:47:58

Ive got tigoles version of got at about 1.3 gb per episode and quality is phenomenol for size. At about 84 gb for 6 seasons its great size to quality ratio for me

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[-] gabbertronnnn | -8 points | Sep 02 2017 08:16:17

Since there are only a handful of devices that can actually play the medium. It's a bit premature to make it the new standard imo. Provide x264 alternatives as well if you're gonna post x265.

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[-] akingcool | 20 points | Sep 02 2017 08:58:08

people who upload here don't owe you anything. if people wanna upload x265 only then that is up to them, they shouldn't feel obliged to satisfy you and source a x265 version.

if you aren't happy with the upload, then skip it. simple.

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[-] EvolutionVII | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 09:24:54

It's not a handful. Every standard android TV box can play 10bit x265 at 1080p. It is a crazy thing to assume that every TV on it's on will ever have the hardware/codecsupport to be begin with. External cheap HW is the way to go.

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[-] elitenls | 1 points | Sep 02 2017 11:14:07

Look, I'm not going to get in to a huge argument or anything - but, x265 is the new standard. Look at it this way, Apple | Megalinks MegaDB Apple just adopted it as standard. That means it's been the standard for a while, because they aren't groundbreakers.

Any Roku made after the Roku 3 decodes it standard, Apple TV3, any computer with a video card made after 2010, and any Android device with M+ on it.

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[-] [deleted] | -2 points | Sep 02 2017 12:34:20

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[-] tiiiiimmmm | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 13:31:33

It is unreasonable to demand uploaders put up content 3-4x larger by requiring an x264 source. You only need to spend ~$50 US to get a machine that can play x265 to external devices, that is a much more reasonable expectation than asking everyone to get better internet. I don't have the bandwidth to upload a 40GB x265 encodes AND the 100GB x264 source.

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[-] Jake548675 | 2 points | Sep 02 2017 16:29:09

Yep. There was a link to a 570GB x264 BDrip of GoT (S1-6) the other day. There's a release of similar quality by tigole, x265: 85GB

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