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iPhunwa2 | 30 points | Aug 22 2017 10:52:42

[MOVIE] Starship Troopers Traitor of Mars 2017 720p WEB-DL DD5.1 H264-FGT (2.7 GB) | Megalinks MegaDB [MOVIE] Starship Troopers Traitor of Mars 2017 720p WEB-DL DD5.1 H264-FGT (2.7 GB)

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[-] MrVonSNR | 2 points | Aug 22 2017 10:54:48

Sweet, many thanks :)

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[-] TheGoodSheep | 1 points | Aug 22 2017 15:33:16

The trailer looks worse than a PC cutscene from 2010, lol

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[-] evilbunny_50 | 1 points | Aug 22 2017 22:24:59

Trailer 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WP1hUxbNs8

Trailer 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnJF5CKnn4U

EDIT: I've liked the first movie since the day it was released, corny as it is, but damn those things are a prime case for ditching a highly complex foot army using ballistic weaponry and instead using a simple biological or chemical weapon from orbit. One ship and one bomb vs what we saw in the movie.

Obviously they can catch bugs live as per the combat effectiveness clip so how hard would it be to find a bio/chem weakness and create a high-altitude detonating device to exploit it?

Simple astrophysics would allow a release from so far away the bugs would never even know the ship was there. A month or two for the bomb/bombs to coast until high atmosphere contact. Dispersal of the agent into the jetstreams and a casing designed to quickly oxidise and degrade on contact with a prevalent gas in the atmosphere and there would not even be a trace of the operation for the Brain bugs to find.

Six months later the world would be almost free of infestation and then you send in the marines to mop up the few remaining pockets that escaped the agent.

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[-] [deleted] | 4 points | Aug 22 2017 23:43:41

They actually covered that pretty well in the book, it's just a shame Paul Verhoeven didn't bother to read it.

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[-] evilbunny_50 | 2 points | Aug 22 2017 23:48:00

eep... I've not read the book either.

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[-] [deleted] | 4 points | Aug 23 2017 00:38:32

It's very different to the movie, but it goes into a lot more detail about tactics and why the MI exists. The short version is: Nukes (and chemical weapons, etc.) are great if you just want to completely destroy an enemy, but sometimes you want to pick their biggest city, destroy 35% of it's industrial capacity, 50% of the government buildings, 2% of civilian infrastructure (excluding hospitals and schools), and scare the shit out of the general population, just to show them that you can. And for that you need foot soldiers.

That didn't translate well to a movie about killing as many bugs as possible.

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[-] mrmnder | 2 points | Aug 24 2017 00:09:44

just to show them that you can.

It was a bit more subtle than that. It wasn't just a show of force, it was as a punishment and war tactic. There was a scene in the book where one of the cadets is asking why they don't just nuke the enemy and the instructor basically responds by saying you spank a small child when it misbehaves, you don't kill it.

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[-] [deleted] | 1 points | Aug 24 2017 00:31:40

A nuke would be a show of force, selective destruction is a show of confidence and control. I was thinking about the bit later on where Rico says:

We can be selective, applying precisely the required amount of pressure at the specified point at a designated time . . . .

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[-] mrmnder | 3 points | Aug 24 2017 01:00:59

I was thinking of this scene:

"Well . . . you see, sir? If we can use an H-bomb - and, as you said, it's no checker game; it's real, it's war and nobody is fooling around - isn't it sort of ridiculous to go crawling around in the weeds, throwing knives and maybe getting yourself killed . . . and even losing the war . . . when you've got a real weapon you can use to win? What's the point in a whole lot of men risking their lives with obsolete weapons when one professor type can do so much more just by pushing a button?"

Zim didn't answer at once, which wasn't like him at all. Then he said softly, "Are you happy in the Infantry, Hendrick? You can resign, you know." Hendrick muttered something; Zim said, "Speak up!"

"I'm not itching to resign, sir. I'm going to sweat out my term."

"I see. Well, the question you asked is one that a sergeant isn't really qualified to answer . . . and one that you shouldn't ask me. You're supposed to know the answer before you join up. Or you should. Did your school have a course in History and Moral Philosophy?"

"What? Sure - yes, sir."

"Then you've heard the answer. But I'll give you my own - unofficial - views on it. If you wanted to teach a baby a lesson, would you cut its head off?"

"Why . . . no, sir!"

"Of course not. You'd paddle it. There can be circumstances when it's just as foolish to hit an enemy city with an H-bomb as it would be to spank a baby with an ax. War is not violence and killing, pure and simple; war is controlled violence, for a purpose. The purpose of war is to support your government's decisions by force. The purpose is never to kill the enemy just to be killing him . . . but to make him do what you want him to do. Not killing . . . but controlled and purposeful violence. But it's not your business or mine to decide the purpose or the control. It's never a soldier's business to decide when or where or how - or why - he fights; that belongs to the statesmen and the generals. The statesmen decide why and how much; the generals take it from there and tell us where and when and how. We supply the violence; other people - 'older and wiser heads,' as they say - supply the control. Which is as it should be. That's the best answer I can give you. If it doesn't satisfy you, I'll get you a chit to go talk to the regimental commander. If he can't convince you - then go home and be a civilian! Because in that case you will certainly never make a soldier."

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[-] chazzzer | 2 points | Aug 23 2017 04:49:44

You've gotta know that SC Johnson (makers of RAID insect killers) are hoping and praying that we get into a major battle with an alien insectoid enemy.

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[-] evilbunny_50 | 1 points | Aug 23 2017 04:56:05

Gods above man! Aren't you? I am and that'd be AWESOME!

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[-] youtubefactsbot | 1 points | Aug 22 2017 22:25:26

[-] Berkut22 | 1 points | Aug 29 2017 03:24:29

I wasn't going to download it... until I heard Casper Van Dien reprising his role from the original.

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