thefilmanarchyman | 56 points
This was on MySpleen, so I decided to post it here. This was not created by me. Credit goes to dahmage.
https://mega.nz/#!N6o3XBya!1aS4lcIsLvi7Sk4B07l1kd5RQS3d_HkCldHLcrDJ6EQ (Mirrors welcome)
1280x720 video 8066kbps 23.976fps
217kbps dual channel 48KHz audio
runtime: 01:25:49 (85 mins 49 secs)
Original Description:
As you may know, thxita, a member on the board, recently obtained a 35mm IB print of THX 1138. This print is from Italy so all the titles, and computer screens are translated into Italian and the sound contains the Italian dub. The print has been scanned and is currently being cleaned up by Poita and Harmy has expressed interest in creating a ‘despecialized’ version.
While their efforts will help create the best version of this film whose original version has little chance of seeing the light of day, I thought it would be nice to take what we have so far and whip up a quick and dirty English version for people to enjoy now. Poita recently released a file containing the whole scan as-is, and I took this and made an English version.
I used the laserdisc as a point of reference for this sync because it’s the only official release of the original version of the film. In a sense, I felt this to be the closest thing to a ‘GOUT’ that THX has. This is the 1st director’s cut of the film that was released after the success of Star Wars; the 35mm print, however, is the 1971 theatrical cut. The only changes between the two are re-arranged scenes in the middle and a shortened scene towards the end between SEN and a couple of young children (and by short, it’s only about 5 seconds shorter). I decided to maintain the edit of the laserdisc version because it was easier to simply edit the footage to the laserdisc than trying to edit both the 35 and the laserdisc and moving both around. I’ve viewed both versions of the film and to be honest, it doesn’t change much. The scenes in question are independent of each other and don’t enhance or take away from the overall narrative. At worst, these edits change our views about how quickly this futuristic society expedites criminals or tortures them prior to trial depending on which version you watch. I just say: meh.
Here are some additional notes:
The first 3 minutes of the film were taken from the bluray version. This includes Buck Rodgers, the Warner Bros logo, the Zeotrope logo, the intro titles and a close up of a clock. At first, I was going to just leave the laserdisc footage, but Buck Rodgers looks particularly bad on the LD and three minutes is a long time to look at badly upscaled LD captures.
Any additional missing footage though is filled in with the laserdisc. This is much easier to do since the laserdisc footage was already laying under the 35 footage in my timeline and any gaps in the 35 timeline is replaced by the laserdisc footage. These last from a mere few frames to a few seconds at a reel change. I really didn’t feel like pulling out my hair to splice in frames from other sources and I prefer this to black frames. Plus, this helps show the difference between this and the LD and what footage is missing from the print and what any future restorer will need from alternate sources. I also might have missed a few frame splices here and there and the sync may slightly go out here and there.
I replaced all of the Italian info screens with the laserdisc. The Bluray uses new computer screens so that was worthless anyway. A future restoration might be able to use the 16mm print that Poita scanned.
Screenshots (Top to bottom, 35 - BD - LD):
35mm:
http://i.imgur.com/ffThdHk.jpg
Blu-ray:
http://i.imgur.com/IOOHEWr.jpg
LaserDisc:
http://i.imgur.com/Zd12fuf.png
35mm:
http://i.imgur.com/hnua4ml.png
Blu-ray:
http://i.imgur.com/OQaGwdr.png
LaserDisc:
http://i.imgur.com/loO2ig7.png
[-] jamesjwalking | 2 points
Is this like the star wars thing? The blu ray is beautiful, do a few added special effects really ruin it that much?
[-] thefilmanarchyman | 4 points
Yeah, George Lucas changed the movie so much some people consider it a different film lol. I like the original without any of the CGI and with the tools they had at the time.
Just so I'm understanding this correctly. This is in English and not Italian?
[-] TreesOfLeisure | 2 points
From what I'm gathering from the post, yes. The 35mm print that was found was all in Italian, but the uploader (dahmage I believe), used the English audio from the Blu-ray (or another copy in English), and overlaid it.
[-] thefilmanarchyman | 2 points
Yes, this is English.
[-] TreesOfLeisure | 2 points
Downloaded and watching it, in English haha! Thank you OP.
Thank you! What year is the movie? Can you give me the technical data?
[-] thefilmanarchyman | 1 points
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/
by technical data if you mean...
1280x720 video 8066kbps 23.976fps 217kbps dual channel 48KHz audio runtime: 01:25:49 (85 mins 49 secs)
(I didn't encode this video so I'm not sure all of them)
[-] greatflicks | 1 points
thanks
[-] MaelMothersbaugh | 1 points
Thank you for uploading this!
You will not have the subtitles in English of this movie, the ones I found are very outdated?
[-] thefilmanarchyman | 1 points
I don't have any, sorry
[-] thefilmanarchyman | 4 points | Apr 12 2017 22:16:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIfTT8EGj3A here's a comparison between the blu-ray and the 35mm grindhouse.
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