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MarkoWolf | 37 points | Jan 03 2017 06:04:33

[META]x264 vs x265 | Megalinks MegaDB [META]x264 vs x265

Right now I am running most of my content in x264 format. Actually, all of it because my computer (server) blatantly tells me that it cannot decode and play x265 ( over Plex). Since a lot of content is starting to get distributed on here via x265, I'd like to get on board. Can you guys who use x265 please share your specs? I'd like to get something I can use.

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[-] vcdupper | 13 points | Jan 03 2017 06:25:11

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3066087/minimum-system-requirements-265-hevc.html

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[-] [deleted] | 12 points | Jan 03 2017 07:19:35

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[-] odellusv2 | 21 points | Jan 03 2017 11:39:01

x265 has drastically increased quality at extremely low bitrates vs x264 which has led to a lot of people overestimating it and releasing supremely bitrate-starved content. x265 is typically around 40% more efficient but you've got all these x265 reencodes of x264 releases with less than half the bitrate of the original and it just really sucks. right now I think the lack of quality x265 releases is a combination of the extreme encoding requirements, lack of compatibility, and general ignorance/unfamiliarity.

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[-] Mortos3 | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 20:51:33

Anyone have examples of x265 releases that don't suffer from bitrate starvation? Just curious

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[-] odellusv2 | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 23:51:12

there are a few 4K Blu-ray rips that are 40+ GB but last i checked almost none of them had actual 4K digital intermediates meaning they're upscales.

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[-] LiquidAurum | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 14:39:18

yeah was about to say 265 for me has been better and is usually a lot smaller

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[-] deptford | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 18:39:28

265 is a tweaked format that creates more problems than it has solved. a 10 year old laptop can handle x264 but a 4 year old laptop can't handle x265. For fuck's sake, let's just have a standard format

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[-] OmNyomNyom | 4 points | Jan 04 2017 18:50:44

a 4 year old laptop can't handle x265

Is it an Atom based laptop? I have an 8-year old Core2 laptop that plays x265 files just fine.

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[-] shorpipo | 2 points | Jan 04 2017 18:48:15

It's not a "tweaked" format, it's a new format that has had years of work put into it.

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[-] deptford | 2 points | Jan 07 2017 18:26:40

Well, they are no good to me. X264 FTW

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[-] Dan4t | 2 points | Feb 13 2017 08:19:23

x265 uses less CPU power to decode...

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[-] eightballthrowaway | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 07:43:05

I think 264 is more popular especially for nice looking shows like Game of Thrones because there's a demand for being able to watch pirated content on your TV. Many TVs are 265 compatible, but not all are, even if they're 4k or higher, so people who are knowledgeable about video encoding are going to go looking for 264 if they know that 265 is a problem for them.

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[-] [deleted] | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 07:47:13

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[-] [deleted] | 7 points | Jan 03 2017 08:13:33

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[-] eightballthrowaway | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 07:59:47

I plug my laptop in to my TV for 265 content and it works fine too, but some people can't do that and media sharing isn't always reliable. It's easier to put it on a usb for me personally; it just depends on the setup the user has.

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[-] dsatrbs | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 07:49:10

I think your points are valid. I can only speak for me, but I seek out x264 for compatibility with stuff other than my 4K TV, so that hopefully transcoding won't be necessary. Mobile devices and

I personally make an exception for 4k content, as it's likely for 4k devices to have HEVC support... I seek out and prefer 4k content (and only 4k content!) in HEVC/x265.

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[-] Dan4t | 1 points | Feb 13 2017 08:17:46

A lot of people have it in their heads that higher bitrate means higher quality, but that's obviously not always the case.

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[-] DarcyFitz | 7 points | Jan 04 2017 00:54:26

I'd hang on a bit. In a few months, AV1 is going to be finalized, and that's really gonna be "the" go to high efficiency codec.

AV1 is vastly better performing on playback than H265, better compression, the whole kit and caboodle. With all the major browsers, media delivery, and operating systems building in support, it's gonna be the go to and H265 will fade into obscurity, mark my words. (Google, Microsoft, AMD, nVidia, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, Cisco, etc are all on board.)

If you're trying to upgrade your library or save some space, just wait a little bit. AV1 is gonna blow up in the scene and your box will most likely be able to transcode it if necessary. (Though it should decode fine on 5+ year old Android devices, so you probably won't need transcoding.)

Then again.... If you need an excuse to get a new toy.... go buy a new toy!

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[-] shorpipo | 3 points | Jan 04 2017 18:50:05

AV1 bitstream format may get locked down in the next few months or so, but it's miles away from being "vastly better performing on playback than H265, better compression".

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[-] Dan4t | 1 points | Feb 13 2017 08:23:09

Where did you hear that AV1 is better? All I've heard is that it's close to being as good as HVEC. The primary goal of AV1 is just to be a royalty free alternative to HVEC. It's not really expected to be better, or a step ahead.

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[-] Apansy | 3 points | Jan 03 2017 10:13:18

The new chromecast supports h.265. So if you don't want to spend an arm and a leg on a new server/computer then that is one way you could go.

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[-] Dianic | 1 points | Jan 04 2017 02:57:23

Or either of the 4K capable Rokus and Xbox One are what I use with a crap computer serving.

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[-] I_cant_talk | 3 points | Jan 03 2017 10:49:57

I wish uploaders would make it clearer which is which. None of my players will play x265 content so I like to avoid it.

But sometimes I don't know what it is until i've already downloaded it.

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[-] GldRush98 | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 18:58:52

Just convert it. Vidcoder works great to change x265 to x264. None of the devices I watch on support x265 so whenever I can only find something in that I grab it and reencode.

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[-] odellusv2 | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 11:43:38

i've never seen a release where the format wasn't made abundantly clear.

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[-] I_cant_talk | 4 points | Jan 03 2017 11:48:10

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

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[-] odellusv2 | -1 points | Jan 03 2017 11:54:45

i don't really download anything from here, my bad. posts like those are why; why the fuck would you download anything with bitrates that horribly low let alone even click on them?

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[-] deptford | 0 points | Jan 03 2017 18:43:16

Deflection much? You asked for examples and were given three, but instead of eating humble pie, you wanna try and wriggle out of the fact that your statement was total bullshit. X265 are the devil's spawn and should be avoided like the plague.

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[-] odellusv2 | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 23:45:11

i said my bad and then made a separate statement, although judging by your x265 comment it wouldn't surprise me if basic communication is difficult for you.

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[-] deptford | 1 points | Jan 04 2017 12:11:46

You mad bro? Jog on and take your childish humor with you. Muppet

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[-] vcdupper | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 15:43:10

We always do it's either in the title or at the far right of the title called a flair

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[-] I_cant_talk | 3 points | Jan 03 2017 16:29:01

As shown in the examples i posted not everyone does it.

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[-] vcdupper | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 16:33:08

We have 26,607 members, good luck getting that many people to do what you want.

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[-] I_cant_talk | 3 points | Jan 03 2017 16:37:58

Maybe not but if posting that means some people start doing it then that's better than nothing.

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[-] vcdupper | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 16:39:10

Agreed :O

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[-] sirin3 | 0 points | Jan 03 2017 18:09:30

The mod could add the flair on all the posts without one

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[-] vcdupper | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 19:07:30

Ok so we have 2 active mods & 26,614 members, so we are supposed to download every file that someone posts without the quality posted and see what it is then let you know? Sure ok i'll stop my whole life & do that to make yours easier, or you could use megasync & stream the file and find out for yourself what it is in about 1 minute then decide if you wanna download it or not, this isn't a perfect world & expecting EVERYONE to do what we want is not realistic. Would you also have us ban members next for not flairing their posts?

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[-] sirin3 | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 21:26:24

Imagine there is no flair. Then there are 26614 members that each have to download the file and check, if it is the right file. And if it is not the right file download another one. Can MEGA handle the traffic caused by 26614 members checking the file format?

Would you also have us ban members next for not flairing their posts?

You said that, not me

But it is a nice idea

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[-] vcdupper | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 21:38:39

If you have that much time on your hands you to think up stupid ideas like that then you have the time to download megasync & stream the file in VLC and see what the files specs are huh?

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[-] vcdupper | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 19:08:58

Try [MPC-HC] (https://mpc-hc.org/downloads/)
If that doesn't work it's time to upgrade

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[-] I_cant_talk | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 19:41:17

Oh they play fine on my pc. Im talking about rasplex and my smart tv.

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[-] vcdupper | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 20:24:23

Oh sorry

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[-] I_cant_talk | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 20:41:25

You're forgiven ;)

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[-] j00pY | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 09:08:34

I bought a wetek hub to be able to play x265 via Kodi through my TV. All my files sit on a very old desktop PC and get streamed to the hub.

I originally used my blu-ray player to stream downloaded stuff but it wouldn't touch x265. I prefer the x265 format for its smaller download size. I buy the stuff I really like on Blu Ray anyway as I want to have the best possible quality for that media, as well as ensuring that my support is shown for movies and TV shows that I want to see more of.

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[-] greatflicks | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 14:43:23

from your desktop are you wireless or connected with ethernet? Thanks

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[-] j00pY | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 14:52:10

I have an Ethernet connection through a homeplug adapter.

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[-] sitman | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 10:11:23

I use Plex to stream to either Chromecast 1, or Roku 3, and my setup can't transcode 265 to 264 on the fly.

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[-] R3a1ityCheque | 2 points | Jan 03 2017 12:19:58

I have an Nvidia Shield TV streaming x265 content over my powerline plugs from a home server (RPi) and it still hitches and buffers the odd time. Some files work fine, others not so much. So the bulk of what I use is still x264.

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[-] trendless | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 08:11:54

If you're using a Mac/PC as your Plex client, are you using Plex Media Player, or just logging into Plex using your web browser?

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[-] retardCAPTCHA | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 08:12:15

For movies I use jyk h264 encodes rest all TV shows h265

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[-] gadgetzombie | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 10:41:49

I use a system with a G3258 CPU as my server with x265 content and can do two 1080p streams without hiccups so for about the last year I've been getting all of my TV shows in x265 to save space as I don't notice much difference in quality.

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[-] lolkatze | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 11:01:44

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^0.7872

What is this?

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[-] LuciferIAm | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 19:27:57

I really rec http://www.universalmediaserver.com/ - to everyone. You're unlikely to ever encounter unplayable files.

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[-] PCSE_32 | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 19:33:09

I use an MXQ Pro 4k for playback which is perfectly fine for HEVC x265 in 4k res at 10bit. I just flashed OpenElec on it instead of the preinstalled android since it supports a lot smoother playback. Also I only download Remux versions (usually 20-50GB / 1080p / 7.1 DTS) of movies and encode them myself to 1080p 5.1 DDSound HEVC mkv. They have around 5-10 GB afterwards and I store the on my external 5TB Harddrive which is connected via usb to the mxq pro.

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[-] cyberdoggy | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 21:47:38

x265 All day long. I watch on MPV player and Plex with no problems and the quality if done by the proper encoders is Phenomenal compared to the blocky x264 codec. Everybody do a search for the FREE MPV player it plays everything you throw at it and there's Portable build too. I dropped VLC player started getting a little bloated for me. I have spoken to some uploaders here and appreciate all the x265 they throw our way. I just wish the scene would demand better of groups with subpar releases of x265 and yes they are out there. You need to experiment with a few groups and you will see who the elite releases are from.

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[-] lagerea | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 22:43:40

I have a hp/voodoo firebird from 2008 playing high bitrate .265 over network with 0 problems. I have no idea why people are having trouble with anything other than encoding .265.

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[-] Pharaoh313 | 1 points | Jan 03 2017 23:41:49

x265 gets my vote. 720p small & decent hd quality espicaly since most people have data-caps. Forget those losers who are trying to play movies on their consoles & smart-tvs. Get a PC or laptop..HTPC

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[-] PricelessPersuader | 1 points | Jan 06 2017 23:05:31

My PleX server is a Pentium G3258 at 4.2Ghz.

I can get one 1080p HEVC transcode out of it no prob and some times 2 depending on the show.

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[-] [deleted] | 1 points | Jan 13 2017 01:47:05

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[-] MarkoWolf | 1 points | Jan 13 2017 03:38:57

Running Plex on Roku 3

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[-] Bobthekillercow | 1 points | Apr 20 2017 09:55:14

I3-4130, 1060 gtx, 8gb ram. I use it to stream to my nexus 6p, Xbox one, and 4k Vizio over wireless.

Can handle 4k hevc.

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