[META] Netflix monitors this sub

[-] achimba | 194 points | Oct 31 2016 21:32:44

I don't know about making this sub private (invite-only) but I do think that the sub should only be visible to people who are signed in with their reddit account. This sub is currently visible with or without a reddit account, meaning that it is completely public and open. Crawlers and indexers can scrape the content of the sub, which means that it is very easy for anyone to monitor for whatever reasons. Requiring someone to be signed in to reddit to view the sub does not prevent anyone from monitoring the sub but at least it makes it more difficult. I think this would prevent a lot of the industry scripts from discovering content so easily.

[-] E_EqualsDankCSquared | 21 points | Oct 31 2016 23:30:11

This is a good idea

[-] AerateMark | 18 points | Nov 01 2016 12:20:34

Fantastic idea, but unfortunately impossible with Reddit's current tools as far as I know..

[-] joenot443 | 8 points | Nov 01 2016 12:48:36

Yeah it's weird seeing all these people agreeing with the idea when it's something mods obviously have no control over.

Really, if users want to start tricking the bots, they should just obfuscate the names of titles they're worried about having taken down.

[-] achimba | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 16:02:25

This is something that also should be done. No single thing is going to resolve all of the issues.

[-] achimba | 6 points | Nov 01 2016 16:01:17

I found a potential solution. Mark the sub as NSFW. Once the sub has been marked as NSFW, the sub will not be visible unless a reddit account is logged in. This also means that the contents of the sub will be hidden from (external) search.

[-] [deleted] | 12 points | Nov 01 2016 17:13:10

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[-] achimba | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 18:06:32

Damn. Oh well. :/

[-] InadequateUsername | 2 points | Nov 02 2016 02:34:20

I guess there goes my idea of a quarantine.

[-] nightauthor | 1 points | Nov 13 2016 04:03:41

Yeah, I think the page would have the get quarantined by reddit for it to work the way they're saying. Not sure if they will do that on demand, I think they just do it for highly offensive subs that dont break rules.

[-] LordMcQueen | 17 points | Oct 31 2016 23:45:46

I'm 100% behind this.

[-] sobayarea | 11 points | Nov 01 2016 00:10:56

signed in with their reddit account.

Yes, I totally agree with that, as more and more of my sources are removed I'd like to see some precautions taken!

[-] dragonmoon05 | 6 points | Nov 01 2016 00:39:57

Great idea, but what stops them to create an account and just keep going?

[-] element383 | 6 points | Nov 01 2016 02:19:47

Agreed, I would be interested in hearing a good solution for this that can't be spoofed.

[-] is_it_fun | 5 points | Nov 01 2016 03:22:32

There is none lol. Other than making the sub private. And even then... someone will just ask for an invite :p

[-] rh_underhill | 5 points | Nov 01 2016 07:09:10

Yup, if it goes private we'll all just be suspicious of each other, wondering who's the Netflix sleeper agent. It'll be like the Cylon hunt all over again.

[-] is_it_fun | 3 points | Nov 01 2016 11:44:00

If there's a caprica six I am ok with that

[-] achimba | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 16:04:50

There is no solution for that. The proposal certainly would not address this. It is just to make things a little more difficult.

[-] achimba | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 16:14:53

Nothing stops this. Ever. Even if you have a super tight group of friends and you do not let anyone else into the circle there might always be a way to get in still if you want to try hard enough. (Hack account, phish for credentials, pay them off)

If you want to look for 'whatever' on the web you can run a script to search all over the place for very little investment of resources. If you need to start creating accounts on websites to see what they have on them, then this is a greater barrier of entry. It is no longer free and you have to maintain an account at such a website.

A dedicated scanner will perform the extra steps to create an account to target specific places they think are more likely to have what they are looking for. You can never stop this, even by the most secure private scheme you can think of.

The goal is to make it one step harder. You have to sign up for a reddit account. You have to be logged in.

[-] how2stayAnonymous | 4 points | Nov 01 2016 17:49:46

Found the Netflix guy

[-] achimba | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 18:10:20

lol

[-] ineedmorealts | 4 points | Nov 01 2016 03:23:37

Yup, just make the sub private and set up a mod bot that invites anyone who sends it a PM

[-] TheMegaPoster | 4 points | Nov 01 2016 05:19:04

calling /u/vcdupper and /u/indigo6alpha so they hear about this good idea.

[-] overboostedchicken | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 05:41:21

Sounds legit. But what if they become some sort of user under the name /therealnetflix or something?

[-] char_actual | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 09:58:51

Excellent idea

[-] kevInquisition | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 00:38:53

+1. This is a good solution

[-] mhallgren5 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 02:49:47

I'm with this guy

[-] Afoith | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 03:09:05

+1

[-] P4NN | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 03:19:31

Agreed

[-] plipness | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 17:20:05

exactly...100% behind this

[-] InadequateUsername | 1 points | Nov 02 2016 02:33:35

idk if the sub mods can, but maybe quarantine the sub? That was only email verified accounts can access the sub.

[-] jetrois | 1 points | Nov 02 2016 03:33:50

sign me up!

[-] [deleted] | 24 points | Oct 31 2016 18:59:33

I think alot of people moniter this sub now. It seems that all of my Game of Thrones Audiobooks and Tv Show uploads were just taken down recently.

[-] aManPerson | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 03:35:04

ya, over the years HBO is VERY active about taking their stuff down.

[-] [deleted] | 3 points | Nov 01 2016 03:57:04

But this is stuff that been up for over a year and then overnight half of it is down. They seem to be getting more serious about it.

[-] somebitch2 | 22 points | Oct 31 2016 21:19:23

time to move to a sub called /r/notreallymegalinksokfbi

[-] imranr11 | 15 points | Oct 31 2016 20:31:22

Guess a private sub is the only way to go.

[-] seattlesound21 | 34 points | Oct 31 2016 20:54:19

Please keep me in the loop if this happens I <3 this place

[-] IgnoreMyName | 22 points | Oct 31 2016 21:18:55

Word. Would suck if a private sub was created and not advertised so those who missed out are like, "when did this sub die?"

[-] Ulifer | 4 points | Nov 01 2016 01:49:02

I agree with IgnoreMyName.

[-] AtleastImNotEA | 3 points | Nov 01 2016 03:35:14

++

[-] [deleted] | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 04:04:02

1

[-] furbonesandfeathers | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 05:47:08

same!!!

[-] ErryDayPayDay | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 06:44:10

+1

[-] [deleted] | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 08:23:49

~~AOL~~ Me too!

[-] kerouak | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 10:15:22

You are totally the netflix guy aren't you

[-] gunnerandhash | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 15:50:32

same here

[-] vivek2396 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 17:32:11

+1

[-] Vince789 | 1 points | Nov 02 2016 09:48:38

Me too please!!

[-] [deleted] | 15 points | Oct 31 2016 22:54:40

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[-] vivek2396 | 3 points | Nov 01 2016 17:31:59

Would be a tedious process, but perhaps filter out people with lower activity/karma?

If it's some netflix employee monitoring with his age-old id then we're done for though.

[-] aud_nih | 5 points | Oct 31 2016 21:54:30

There actually already is one... however it's totally dead.

[-] ChillingInTraffic | 3 points | Nov 01 2016 00:39:48

No need in using it unless we actually need it.

[-] xxb4xx | 5 points | Oct 31 2016 23:10:39

How do people apply to get in? I don't wanna miss out if it goes private :(

[-] KV_BRAT | -1 points | Nov 01 2016 07:16:28

Did you get the answer? Help the fellow human being if you got the answer.

[-] xxb4xx | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 09:10:02

No answer buddy.. when / if I do, I'll update..

[-] KV_BRAT | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 09:48:29

Thanks bro.

[-] [deleted] | 2 points | Oct 31 2016 20:41:24

How does that work?

[-] IgnoreMyName | 15 points | Oct 31 2016 21:11:39

You would need to be invited or let into a private sub. I suppose submitters would have a free entry but would be difficult for those of us who do not upload but only download to gain entry.

[-] imranr11 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 06:58:28

I don't think that should be the case at all. We want the basic monitoring from different people who report links/mega accounts to go away, not the downloaders. Also what's the point of uploading when there's no one to download? We're here to share after all.

[-] IgnoreMyName | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 08:09:41

I know, tough call. Either leave as is and uploaders will have to keep uploading or private it for approved Redditors, both uploaders and downloaders.

[-] BoyWhoCrapped | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 05:02:47

I want in, mods. plz

[-] KV_BRAT | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 07:14:58

keep me in the loop too mates. It would suck hard if i somehow lost this sub (if it goes private).

[-] FoxRaptix | 0 points | Oct 31 2016 21:16:43

I don't know. I literally still see tons of Netflix links still up that are pushing a month or more. So i'm not really sure where OP is getting this "Netflix is monitoring this sub" view from.

[-] imranr11 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 07:06:01

not true. All my Luke Cage links have went down in just 2 week or less. I guess that's because of Marvel Studios. They are the most strict in business when it comes to taking action on copyright infringement.

[-] FoxRaptix | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 08:19:24

What's not true?

Your luke cage shows might be down, but I can still access Stranger Things, and a host of other Marvel/netflix shows from other links. including from that old 5tb dump that's pushing past 2 months. Which i just checked now, still as an x265 Season 1 Luke Cage up.

[-] imranr11 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 08:39:47

So they caught a few, missed a few. Or maybe some of the visitors end up sharing the links on other websites that are monitored. Because there are more than just one or two links that are down.

[-] TheEvenDarkerKnight | 0 points | Nov 01 2016 03:39:21

I like this idea. I'd feel more comfortable uploading if this sub was private.

[-] E-ROLE | 13 points | Oct 31 2016 20:06:52

I pay for Netflix, but since the start of the year, just doesn't work in my house. Next door is fine, have tried fixing, called support multiple times and get no where. So I just download their shows from here. I don't see as I'm doing anything wrong. I pay for their service still!

[-] DIDNT_READ_YOUR_SHIT | 22 points | Oct 31 2016 22:41:54

service doesnt work

company doesnt help

still pays for it.

Hey bro can I sell you a service too? I won't actually do anything or respond to calls, but you can keep paying me.

[-] E-ROLE | 2 points | Nov 02 2016 10:45:25

My girlfriend has access to the account (separate address) so I keep paying to give her something to do after work. Smart ass.

[-] DIDNT_READ_YOUR_SHIT | 3 points | Nov 02 2016 14:27:50

Well you can pay me and I can also be the thing your girlfriend does after work)

[-] E-ROLE | 2 points | Nov 02 2016 19:00:16

yea

[-] sishgupta | 2 points | Oct 31 2016 20:17:21

Did you ever use a DNS service to get regional netflix or sports?

If you stopped paying for the service (as it no longer works with nflx), you will not be able to use netflix until you change your DNS servers back again.

[-] E-ROLE | 0 points | Oct 31 2016 21:20:34

No, never did. Just some dumb issue. It's weird as it works downstairs on the chromecast. But no where else in the house. I've even taken the chromecast up stairs and it's stopped working. It's not a simple issue like router range as I can stream Youtube 4k anywhere in the house.

[-] jason2306 | 12 points | Oct 31 2016 19:35:55

damm that sucks if netflix wants people to stop downloading maybe they should make their service better. I mean the us seems to be pretty good but different counties don't get the awesome american shows :/

[-] Shurae | 24 points | Oct 31 2016 20:07:52

Thats not always Netflixs fault though. It's the production companies/licence holders who decide what they sell to Netflix and what not. Netflix may get the licence for the US region but not for the EU region.

[-] jason2306 | -5 points | Oct 31 2016 20:44:25

Oh yeah that's true and it sucks but I don't want a netflix subscription anymore. Edit: you guys are downvoting me for not wanting a netflix subscription anymore what??

[-] GldRush98 | 5 points | Oct 31 2016 21:25:23

I don't think there is anything Netflix can do.

People want permanent access to media. Netflix is temporary access at best. Even if you keep your account active, movies and TV shows get pulled all the time due to licensing deals.

You can never match the ability to download a drm free file to keep forever.

[-] jason2306 | 1 points | Oct 31 2016 21:49:44

Yeah fair enough plenty of people lijke netflix but it's not for me I guess,but I do love their original stuff.

[-] heatproofmatt | 2 points | Oct 31 2016 20:04:55

other countries get some shows the day after the show airs and get much better movies than the US.

[-] jason2306 | -1 points | Oct 31 2016 20:45:46

I don't care much for movies I more meant the tv shows, I mean for me it's not worth it since I don't watch movies.

[-] Cynicbats | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 02:39:21

Yep.

It's not 100% Netflix's fault, I will admit that, but it's not good enough to pay for.

[-] jason2306 | 0 points | Nov 01 2016 02:40:36

Yup

[-] FoxRaptix | 9 points | Oct 31 2016 21:06:45

I don't really think they physically monitor this sub. I still see a number of links from Stranger Things still up when checking right now. Like links that are close to a month old now. So I mean, either they're really bad at purging, or they don't actually monitor the subreddit. Even in that 5tb dump i still all the 4k links for Netflix shows up and regular links for Daredevil and Luke cage, etc. So i'm not really sure what you're basing this on.

Also i'm kind of curious how you gathered they're the ones purging media that's not even theres???

Odds are links and what not from here are being shared around the web. Especially those mega dumps, and they're probably being shared in areas where people are reporting them

[-] vivek2396 | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 17:34:11

Hmm, this seems more likely.

[-] mehdbc | 7 points | Nov 01 2016 02:28:40

Remember when people gave Metallica songs weird names on Napster to get around the censors? Why don't guys do that

[-] Probate_Judge | 6 points | Nov 01 2016 08:40:26

I'm fairly certain it's not actively monitored so much as comes up in google easily, and that a firm will do X amount of web-crawling, complile a list, and then anything on that list gets taken down or fought....meaning it comes in waves and some things get missed by happenstance.

It got me thinking. I've seen plugins that replace words or do all sorts of random things with greasemonkey and other similar tools..

I was thinking that we could sort of post in code, say, the actual title is typed backwards, but a plug-in would flip it around for anyone who has it installed.

This would stop a majority of crawlers/googlers as well as the lawfirms hired to send out notices because they're not reading all of this(but may be now) and naturally wouldn't have such an extension downloaded much less enabled.

Just a thought, I've got no technical knowledge/ability aside from a class in Pascal entirely too many years ago and the ability to use a pc to play games, surf for porn, and read and post stuff on reddit. (a bit more than that but you get the idea).

[-] johoja12 | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 02:14:10

ah man, let's make this private only.

[-] R3a1ityCheque | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 15:26:00

If this moves to private, I'd really like an invite too. :)

Best regards

Mr. Reed Hastings.

[-] VPNuser11 | 1 points | Oct 31 2016 20:51:22

I believe if you put them in passworded rar archives and not advertise the content in the filenames,there is little anyone can do to get them taken down.

[-] LordMcQueen | 1 points | Oct 31 2016 23:44:24

Well, damn... :-(

[-] metaz69u | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 04:16:09

Agreed! Email those interested [Via PRI Suggestions board]. Create a PIN to access, key to DL.

[-] etherylism | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 04:52:58

I think a good solution is to make the decryption keys private and only known with a pm to the op, so it is up to the op to verify who are legitimate people.

[-] kaching335 | 2 points | Nov 01 2016 12:34:27

That is completely absurd.

[-] halolordkiller3 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 05:04:51

fyi that dump is still up an active

[-] PraiseDannyWoodhead | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 06:24:35

Is this why half a terabyte of my anime uploads received takedown notices in the last day? Fuck.

[-] Shurae | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 08:59:36

I guess this sub will just work the way reddit in general does. You grab the stuff that's currently hot and interests you and move on to the next one. Don't expect to find any archival stuff that's still online.

[-] sirber | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 12:21:50

just got a "private page, contact moderators". next thing it works again. I wouldn't like to lose access!

[-] marcoHK | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 19:36:42

seems to be the only option. but whom do you invite? and who decides that? what circle of trust can be build?

[-] Dant3067 | 1 points | Nov 01 2016 23:19:11

I keep hearing more and more about people having their stuff taken down recently..... Im with making it private as well as switching up names to deal with censors.....

[-] firetroll | 1 points | Nov 02 2016 09:37:42

I'm confused but when you upload something, even mega can censor some out as well?

Couldn't you just change the file name/archive and just label the text within the sub what the item is? So mega doesnt erase the file.

[-] seanwc09 | 0 points | Nov 01 2016 20:44:22

No choice but to reup. Perseverance is key.

[-] HTPC- | -1 points | Nov 01 2016 04:15:55

if we go invite only I would like an invite please. One of my favorite things about this sub was being able to lurk without an account. Now I have had to make something for this PC.

[-] Demiglitch | -1 points | Nov 01 2016 06:07:44

Streaming

[-] DIDNT_READ_YOUR_SHIT | -7 points | Oct 31 2016 21:32:41

Well maybe if Netflix adds a source-quality download button, we wouldn't need to go here, duh??